tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post2846068756355998366..comments2024-03-11T02:32:15.295-04:00Comments on Goblin Artisans: CCDD 050718—Form of the PhoenixUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-35671668730886011072018-05-08T23:00:52.703-04:002018-05-08T23:00:52.703-04:00Yeah, I like that one too. It feels fun & coo...Yeah, I like that one too. It feels fun & cool to have a big impact during the 'moment of rebirth'.Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02090253014943762842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-84079988113854606522018-05-08T22:16:41.663-04:002018-05-08T22:16:41.663-04:00Okay, my attempt. (I expect I'm getting the ru...Okay, my attempt. (I expect I'm getting the rules text wrong here)<br /><br />Form of the Phoenix - RRR<br />Enchantment<br />If your life total would drop to zero or below, your life total instead becomes 7, and you put a revival counter on ~. Then, sacrifice a land for each revival counter on ~. If you cannot, you lose the game.Larcenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637510675812632748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-8824411940222990422018-05-08T13:16:36.186-04:002018-05-08T13:16:36.186-04:00Mono red control is tricky, but it's a thing. ...Mono red control is tricky, but it's a thing. You play land denial, sweepers, maybe some fast mana like Desperate Ritual to turbo this out early, then you sit back, ignore your own life total, and just let it slowly burn your opponent out while they struggle to find an answer.<br /><br />Tarmogoyf is probably Modern's strongest counterplay.Jenesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356037137564501914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-33920882817292591162018-05-08T12:18:27.923-04:002018-05-08T12:18:27.923-04:00This is great. I was also kind of brainstorming so...This is great. I was also kind of brainstorming some sort of self-mill component but never really got to a good spot.Larcenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637510675812632748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-40779135997827018952018-05-08T12:15:51.696-04:002018-05-08T12:15:51.696-04:00Well ... not currently. But red is also best posit...Well ... not currently. But red is also best positioned (via haste) to build decks where creatures can still get in before dying.<br /><br />So that does make it more of a build-around.Larcenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637510675812632748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-71313453228540426042018-05-08T10:31:37.880-04:002018-05-08T10:31:37.880-04:00I am quite liking this latest version -- I like th...I am quite liking this latest version -- I like that the fire is the moment of rebirth, and that you're reborn as a phoenix, rather than burning until then.Jack (cartesiandaemon)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08258267965242039995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-29531102521825145452018-05-08T10:25:12.106-04:002018-05-08T10:25:12.106-04:00Yes that would be the idea, but everytime you do a...Yes that would be the idea, but everytime you do and die again you lose more of your library and your permanents so it's not free. Thanks for the reply!Amaranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00008767362377413522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-84604041324397119072018-05-08T10:16:29.686-04:002018-05-08T10:16:29.686-04:00Not black-red?Not black-red?Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-46439863807561920962018-05-08T10:15:21.863-04:002018-05-08T10:15:21.863-04:00Welcome, iAmarant!
This is a neat take. Very stron...Welcome, iAmarant!<br />This is a neat take. Very strong. That last ability means I can cast this card every round if I want to...Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-51564868858385918442018-05-08T10:09:12.365-04:002018-05-08T10:09:12.365-04:00Most mono-red decks also don't want to kill al...Most mono-red decks also don't want to kill all their creatures every turn.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-46091889990934177292018-05-08T10:05:08.752-04:002018-05-08T10:05:08.752-04:00Cool. Combining this with some previous feedback:
...Cool. Combining this with some previous feedback:<br /><br />Form of the Phoenix 2RRR<br />Enchantment<br />If your life total would drop below 1, instead sacrifice ~, shuffle your hand, graveyard, and all other permanents you own into your library, draw 7 cards and your life total becomes 20, then ~ deals 5 damage to each creature and player.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-60993967722052343832018-05-08T08:46:30.552-04:002018-05-08T08:46:30.552-04:00Hello Jay and people of GA.
This is my first post...Hello Jay and people of GA.<br /><br />This is my first post here. I found this blog today and boy have I spent most of my day reading it. It is a very exciting place!<br /><br />I'd also like to submit a version inspired on becoming a Phoenix:<br /><br />Form of the phoenix - 4RR<br />Legendary enchantment<br />If you would lose the game, instead exile the top half of your library rounded up, your hand, graveyard and all nonland permanents you control. Then your life total becomes 6 and you draw three cards. <br />You may cast CARDNAME from exile.<br /><br />With this design I want to express a "rebirth" that makes you weaker but gives you a chance to come back. I like the idea of losing your deck while reviving but it seems very wordy.Amaranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00008767362377413522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-25398683320586489842018-05-08T02:32:54.359-04:002018-05-08T02:32:54.359-04:00Most mono-red decks don't play that many six d...Most mono-red decks don't play that many six drops at all, they're slow and clunky. Plus, as Lich's Mirror shows, a one sided game restart usually only delays the inevitable. It isn't that hard to deal 20 damage when your opponent has no permanents.Wobbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11494097707732649864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-86301437712326866972018-05-08T02:28:54.884-04:002018-05-08T02:28:54.884-04:00Rekindling is the most iconic Pheonix design to da...Rekindling is the most iconic Pheonix design to date. Form cards should feel like they make you into the creature, although I don't think they have to make you attack directly.Wobbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11494097707732649864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-12063588781395693912018-05-07T18:19:57.517-04:002018-05-07T18:19:57.517-04:00Become the Phoenix
WWRR
Instant
Until the start of...Become the Phoenix<br />WWRR<br />Instant<br />Until the start of your next turn, you can't lose the game. At the beginning of the end step right before your next turn, set your life total to 3 and ~ deals 3 damage to each other target.<br /><br />Because CMON. Phoenixes are red/white, always have been and always should be. You know it, I know it, the American people know it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15107119691219468708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-82750359104436967122018-05-07T18:07:21.529-04:002018-05-07T18:07:21.529-04:00My question here: Is there a reason why you would ...My question here: Is there a reason why you would not play Form of the Phoenix in every/any mono-red deck?<br /><br />There is a risk/trade-off to it, but for the color it's in, that risk is not as significant as it would in other colors for the benefits you gain. As with the other two forms, it turns the match into a race, but having the damage go so wide means that it's a race red is so much more likely to win. And then if it loses, it gets another chance. The resurrection makes it so much less risky than the other two forms.<br /><br />What kind of deck do you see this form backfiring against?Larcenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637510675812632748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-56031549939306187842018-05-07T18:03:35.176-04:002018-05-07T18:03:35.176-04:00Fighting is secondary in red, though.Fighting is secondary in red, though.Larcenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637510675812632748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-86211042852206839112018-05-07T17:31:21.159-04:002018-05-07T17:31:21.159-04:00Form of the Phoenix 1RR
Enchantment
At the beginn...Form of the Phoenix 1RR<br />Enchantment<br />At the beginning of each upkeep, deal 2 damage to any target and your life total becomes 2.<br />If you would lose the game, instead exile ~ and your life total becomes 2.<br /><br />Tried to keep it simple and clean.Pasteurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02058331124653341978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-37573929631274987052018-05-07T17:22:50.106-04:002018-05-07T17:22:50.106-04:00I like the idea of remaining a Phoenix after you r...I like the idea of remaining a Phoenix after you resurrect (and maybe even only becoming a Phoenix after you resurrect).<br /><br />Form of the Phoenix 1RRR<br />Enchantment<br />Form of the Phoenix enters the battlefield with a Resurrection counter on it.<br />If your life total would drop below 1, instead remove a Resurrection counter from it. If you do, shuffle your hand, graveyard, and all other permanents you own into your library, then draw 7 cards and your life total becomes 20.<br />At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are no Resurrection counters on this, it deals 3 damage to each creature and player.<br /><br />---<br /><br />This is probably too much text. It's also a little weird that this version puts a 7-turn clock until a draw game (but I don't think that's a huge concern). I thought this could cost a little less since the ability doesn't kick in right away. Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02090253014943762842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-38708362482386545022018-05-07T15:18:42.039-04:002018-05-07T15:18:42.039-04:00Part of me says that if we really wanted FotP in a...Part of me says that if we really wanted FotP in a set with DFCs, we might as well do it up. A bigger part of me says we should keep the cycle tighter than that.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-7938417309167593652018-05-07T14:28:16.131-04:002018-05-07T14:28:16.131-04:00Although as it stands, this version is probably to...Although as it stands, this version is probably too powerful.rkohn1357https://www.blogger.com/profile/13571769648433004272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-63398478425019972582018-05-07T14:26:48.308-04:002018-05-07T14:26:48.308-04:00It's hard to find a through line for what Form...It's hard to find a through line for what Form ofs need to delete right since Dinosaur and Dragon are both actually quite different executions. I actually think at first blush it isn't necessary to represent an "attack", but I'm really not sure. <br /><br />Rekindling Phoenix is one of my favorite Phoenix designs, but I feel like it's sort of its own special execution and this is infringing on its uniqueness a bit. However, many people have had this thought about other things and it wasn't correct so maybe I'm in the wrong.Enziohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10155129964324823831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-39554687192146954552018-05-07T14:25:46.252-04:002018-05-07T14:25:46.252-04:00I'm not sure that this is substantially differ...I'm not sure that this is substantially different from a Platinum Ali of Cairo, just slightly more fragile and more "top down" as a form card. Wobbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11494097707732649864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-70759471569628265902018-05-07T14:24:29.878-04:002018-05-07T14:24:29.878-04:00What about making this a double-faced card? Like:
...What about making this a double-faced card? Like:<br /><br />Form of the Phoenix 3RRR<br />Enchantment (M)<br />At the beginning of your upkeep, ~ deals 3 damage to each creature and player.<br />If your life total would be reduced to zero or less, instead exile all permanents you control except ~, then transform ~. Your life total becomes 20.<br />//<br />Form of the Egg<br />Enchantment<br />At the beginning of your upkeep, put an incubation counter on ~. If it has three or more incubation counters on it, remove them and transform ~, then return all cards exiled with it to the battlefield under your control.rkohn1357https://www.blogger.com/profile/13571769648433004272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-91040475398715776642018-05-07T14:20:13.606-04:002018-05-07T14:20:13.606-04:00It also helps the green argument that you still ne...It also helps the green argument that you still need other creatures to attack your opponent.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.com