tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post2375234495129190239..comments2024-03-11T02:32:15.295-04:00Comments on Goblin Artisans: Designs for Red in the Late GameUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-10025477824142382732012-10-08T22:32:28.502-04:002012-10-08T22:32:28.502-04:00Or:
Lotus Seed
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Whenever you cast a spel...Or:<br />Lotus Seed<br />0<br />Artifact<br />Whenever you cast a spell, put a charge counter on ~.<br />Remove 3 charge counters from ~, Sacrifice: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool. Use this ability only if you have not cast a spell this turn.RoryTheGreatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-4997007956936295562012-10-08T22:30:42.115-04:002012-10-08T22:30:42.115-04:00As far as Dragon Savant is concerned, I love the u...As far as Dragon Savant is concerned, I love the updated effect. My only issue is the shuffling aspect. I feel that design should remove shuffling whenever possible as is slows down games significantly.<br /><br />What if we put the spells on the card like Jaya Ballard?<br /><br />Dragon Archmage 4RR<br />Creature-Dragon<br />Flying, Haste<br /><br />R Tap: ~Deals 3 Damage to target creature or player.<br />1R Tap: Destroy target artifact<br />2R Tap: Discard your hand and draw 7 cards.<br /><br />4/4<br /><br />Dragon Archmage 4RR<br />Creature-Dragon<br />Flying, Haste<br /><br />When ~ attacks you may choose one-<br />Pay R ~Deals 3 Damage to target creature or player.<br />Pay 1R, Destroy target artifact<br />Pay 2R, Discard your hand and draw 7 cards.<br /><br />4/4<br /><br />I went with Alpha's Iconic Spells but it could be any red spells. Stone rain instead or wheel of fortune?<br /><br />Or make it a Mythic and have it cast a common, uncommon, & rare from the set.RoryTheGreatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-23659013341600627322012-10-08T10:35:33.649-04:002012-10-08T10:35:33.649-04:00I'm not at all surprised how these cards feel ...I'm not at all surprised how these cards feel very very red yet are so well-suited for control decks, but I am quite pleased by it.<br /><br />Tweaks / Niggles / Inspirations:<br /><br />It's jarring to follow "attacking creatures" with "each creature" in Stop Bugging Me, All of You. I would expect the recipients to be the defender's creatures.<br /><br />The fact that your Wildfire variant costs 6 but drops players to 3 lands is what makes me like it. Granted, you can (and should) Ur-Golem's Eye or Seething Song into it but at least at face value it costs you three land.<br /><br />I would also offer up something that stops players from casting Big spells. NRR Sorcery—Each player sacrifices lands until they control six or fewer lands.<br /><br />Maybe 1RR Enchantment—Whenever a land ETB, sacrifice ~. If you do, destroy that land. ...Probably not.<br /><br />Warstorm Phoenix is beautiful and I want a playset. My only concern is that getting back one makes getting back the next easier. Possibly too easy. Or possibly just awesome.<br /><br />Why does Dragon Archmage only know spells you've already cast? Why does he give them to you? Why does he make mana for you? Shouldn't he just cast the spells himself? Too similar to Djinn of Wishes? Inspired...<br /><br />Dragon Savant 4RR<br />Creature-Dragon<br />Whenever ~ attacks or blocks, you may pay XR. If you do, search your library for a red spell with X in its mana cost and cast it without paying its mana cost. (X is X.)Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-59020644649016333002012-10-07T05:30:12.096-04:002012-10-07T05:30:12.096-04:00I seem to recall reading MaRo talking about land d...I seem to recall reading MaRo talking about land destruction, and his take was that they were moving it to higher costs and smaller efficiency, not removing it from the game altogether. The reasoning for that is that there are many people who love land destruction (griefers mostly) but as a mechanic it does not push the game towards interesting decisions, and removes the opportunity to cast spells, just like counterspell did. It is no happenstance that both stone rain and counterspell got a bump in their cost, coinciding with giving the ability to play 3-drops to your opponent. In magic it is different than in medicine: a cure is better than a prevention. I think that that will be my amateur magic the gathering designer creed.<br /><br />Ritual of ruin can become a 3-lands destruction card, but will not always be so, and is so late in the game that it only reduces you to 4 lands if you choose to do that. It does reset things but in an asymetric kind of why, which at 7 mana is ok.<br /><br />You are however correct in pointing out they printed destructive force. There will always be cards like these from time to time, but these virtual resets are not pushed for competitive play. They are not my cup of tea when implemented this way because they tend to better fit red/green strategies with fatties and acceleration than give red a proper answer and way to come back in the late game. I do not have a good substitution to suggest here unfortunately.A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-29352262117654798932012-10-07T05:12:17.493-04:002012-10-07T05:12:17.493-04:00To make it safe for storm, you can add the first t...To make it safe for storm, you can add the first time you cast a spell each turn, or you can add restrictions such as sorcery spell, creature spell etc etc.A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-66424264249978760792012-10-06T19:07:03.372-04:002012-10-06T19:07:03.372-04:00Yeah, I really like that Enchantment, Chah. I almo...Yeah, I really like that Enchantment, Chah. I almost feel like it could be a great idea for a new "Lotus" too. Like:<br /><br />Lotus Seed<br />0<br />Artifact<br />Whenever you cast a spell, put a charge counter on ~.<br />Remove 3 charge counters from ~, Sacrifice: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool.<br /><br />I have no concept of how dangerous such a card could be in Storm (etc...), but it looks relatively safe.metaghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301191638894756414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-13006648745188549392012-10-06T18:43:12.990-04:002012-10-06T18:43:12.990-04:00Yeah, the cost on Dragon Archmage was more a "...Yeah, the cost on Dragon Archmage was more a "let's pick a random big number for a fatty" than any sort of careful calculation. I'd like to see a dragon succeed in constructed as much as the next Timmy!<br /><br />I like your enchantment.HavelockVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698268009797139251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-47518209598938149582012-10-06T18:35:34.910-04:002012-10-06T18:35:34.910-04:00Avatar of Strife is a cool design. I like how it f...Avatar of Strife is a cool design. I like how it forces itself to attack, too. <br /><br />I think Dragon Archmage should cost less - it could be a card that spawns Constructed decks around it without being a must-include in every deck. (The suggestion is not for pleasing Spikes, but for increasing deck diversity.) In that case, it could be a Rare without messing up Limited (because it's not easy to get 3 sorceries in your graveyard in Limited).<br /><br />I also like how it's a creature that allows you to cast big X spells. They should definitely have more of those, since it's a way to bring back mana ritual effects that's more focused on the fun things you can do with mana boosting rather than the degenerate ones. <br /><br />It gives me an idea for a "volcano" type spell: <br />Pent-up Energy 1R<br />Enchantment<br />Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery, put a charge counter on ~.<br />Sacrifice ~: Add R to your mana pool for each charge counter on ~.Chahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15574587448667619081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-71705381097516161862012-10-06T13:37:43.234-04:002012-10-06T13:37:43.234-04:00Good point. I think your proposal's probably ...Good point. I think your proposal's probably best.HavelockVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698268009797139251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-31274556987488101982012-10-06T13:25:22.177-04:002012-10-06T13:25:22.177-04:00Conceptually, I feel that if you're doing it o...Conceptually, I feel that if you're doing it on-attack, you're incentivizing having combat tricks to benefit that attack. So, unless you were to put that ability on Hypersonic Dragon, it isn't quite what you want on a red dragon.metaghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301191638894756414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-65042790563638215712012-10-06T13:07:59.575-04:002012-10-06T13:07:59.575-04:00Yeah, I was also considering that template. One a...Yeah, I was also considering that template. One advantage of using a delayed trigger is this alternative: <br /><br />Whenever CARDNAME attacks, add RRRRR to your mana pool at the beginning of your next main phase.<br /><br />More fun, or too generous?HavelockVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698268009797139251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-197509890196931462012-10-06T12:18:42.811-04:002012-10-06T12:18:42.811-04:00Not sure you need to bleed the "mana-pool sta...Not sure you need to bleed the "mana-pool stability" ability into red, though it's not especially offensive:<br /><br />Whenever CARDNAME deals combat damage to a player, add RRRRR to your mana pool at the beginning of your next main phase.metaghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301191638894756414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-91591437438511140752012-10-06T12:13:47.813-04:002012-10-06T12:13:47.813-04:00Good thoughts; "harass" looks like a R/W...Good thoughts; "harass" looks like a R/W combat mechanic that could have some real mileage too it, though with the creature-centric focus of modern magic it may be too potent in Standard and almost meaningless in older formats.<br /><br />As to your opinion on Wildfires, it's only been two years since Destructive Force, so I don't think we can make serious assumptions about that style of card. It may be more of a 3cc -> 4cc : 6cc -> 7cc shift to help push things in a particular direction.metaghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301191638894756414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-66861233393208788742012-10-06T12:08:50.397-04:002012-10-06T12:08:50.397-04:00I've been wondering whether mass land destruct...I've been wondering whether mass land destruction is really verboten nowadays. There hasn't been much since Destructive Force, but they did print Rite of Ruin and Worldfire quite recently.HavelockVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12698268009797139251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-21744841085275056952012-10-06T10:44:47.621-04:002012-10-06T10:44:47.621-04:00Some personal comments on the cards:
Stop Bugging...Some personal comments on the cards:<br /><br />Stop Bugging Me, All of You (rare)<br />1RR<br />Instant<br />CARDNAME deals damage equal to the number of attacking creatures to each creature.<br /><br />could be used for both attacking and defending strategies. I would feel a more red way to do this would be: <br /><br />Get out of our way, All of You (rare)<br />1RR<br />Instant<br />CARDNAME deals damage equal to the number of attacking creatures you control to each creature (optional to each creature target/ your opponents player controls/control).<br /><br />There can be many variations, caring about the power of the creature attacking etc etc. Caring about creatures attacking you is more in the white part of the color pie.<br /><br />erifdliW (rare)<br />4RR<br />Sorcery<br />Each player chooses three lands he or she controls, then sacrifices the rest. CARDNAME deals five damage to each creature.<br /><br />RnD seems to shy away from such cards which can read like griefer cards that do not allow you to cast the spells you have in hand. Discard is ok, land destruction of this magnitude (compare this to the 3R cost of destroying a single land that is the norm...) Land destruction is not the way to go. However land restriction could be in the form of creatures with a reverse bloodcast power:<br /><br />Harass: whenever this creature deals combat damage to target player, creature spells he casts cost 1 more until your next upkeep.<br /><br />By putting this one on expensive champions you can gain some control, locking down resources of your opponent.<br /><br />I love the assault mechanic.<br /><br />I like dragon Archmage. A bit wordy, but it is fine. <br /><br />The avatar of strife would be a card I would really like to get.<br /><br />However I would also like to see some commons and uncommons that could fill the desired role.A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.com