tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post3159961766157228011..comments2024-03-11T02:32:15.295-04:00Comments on Goblin Artisans: CCDD 080714—PentapodUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-41693558656627901222014-08-12T19:02:36.176-04:002014-08-12T19:02:36.176-04:00This is interesting design space.This is interesting design space.Basshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14796834860620921124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-26403373439164686382014-08-08T21:05:51.634-04:002014-08-08T21:05:51.634-04:00Whenever you discard a card, you may discard ~ as ...Whenever you discard a card, you may discard ~ as well. If you do, return a card that entered your graveyard this turn to its owner's hand.<br /><br />?Pasteurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02058331124653341978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-84638407901207705482014-08-08T17:14:33.317-04:002014-08-08T17:14:33.317-04:00We could go Pitchstone Wall on it:
Whenever you d...We could go Pitchstone Wall on it:<br /><br />Whenever you discard a card, you may discard ~. If you do, return the discarded card from your graveyard to your hand.<br /><br />Slightly ambiguous... hm...<br /><br />Whenever you discard a card, you may discard ~. If you do, return the first discarded card from your graveyard to your hand?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393054869276886509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-38107074959917435292014-08-08T16:58:16.682-04:002014-08-08T16:58:16.682-04:00I missed the "if able" in your wording. ...I missed the "if able" in your wording. I think that's pretty clear.<br /><br />The only way this could break if there were something that caused multiple cards to be discarded, and then did things that required them to exist. "Target player with two or more cards in hand discards two cards. He or she loses life equal to the first card's CMC. You gain life equal to the second card's CMC." Pretty sure nothing like that exists or ever should.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-61750158166997732882014-08-08T16:55:36.234-04:002014-08-08T16:55:36.234-04:00Discard ~: You can't discard other cards this ...Discard ~: You can't discard other cards this turn.Chahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15574587448667619081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-56887696099893046692014-08-08T14:48:18.382-04:002014-08-08T14:48:18.382-04:00Is there something in the Comp Rules I'm missi...Is there something in the Comp Rules I'm missing? Or are we just talking about people getting confused about what constitutes "being able" to choose something?metaghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301191638894756414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-10179991733011148102014-08-08T14:03:47.945-04:002014-08-08T14:03:47.945-04:00Duress is a bit awkward.Duress is a bit awkward.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-770351359771058532014-08-08T13:15:10.014-04:002014-08-08T13:15:10.014-04:00How so? If the card is among the three revealed, t...How so? If the card is among the three revealed, then the opponent must choose it; if for whatever reason I choose to not reveal Hypothetical Pentapod, my opponent is unable to choose said card, and thus is not forced to choose it.<br /><br />Choose, choose, choose, choose, choose.metaghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301191638894756414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-79071362849554014582014-08-08T12:37:41.687-04:002014-08-08T12:37:41.687-04:00I definitely support the "may".I definitely support the "may".lpaulsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07772860908442278112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-37233853449090627432014-08-08T12:37:09.659-04:002014-08-08T12:37:09.659-04:00This plus Reforge the Soul... wow. Then again, if ...This plus Reforge the Soul... wow. Then again, if Notion Thief is safe, I suppose this is too.lpaulsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07772860908442278112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-84531092418630408622014-08-08T12:31:19.867-04:002014-08-08T12:31:19.867-04:00Effects like Blackmail would make this wording tri...Effects like Blackmail would make this wording tricky rules-wise, at least as I understand it.lpaulsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07772860908442278112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-31341725800069619742014-08-08T11:03:50.414-04:002014-08-08T11:03:50.414-04:00Probably "one or more" to make it explic...Probably "one or more" to make it explicit.<br />This could <i>theoretically</i> break some cards, but likely not.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-34642799687534512042014-08-08T10:28:45.013-04:002014-08-08T10:28:45.013-04:00"If an effect an opponent controls would caus..."If an effect an opponent controls would cause you to discard cards, you may discard CARDNAME instead"?Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14318011531403551812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-68466573953124207952014-08-08T10:23:01.997-04:002014-08-08T10:23:01.997-04:00That would be cool. There's probably a wording...That would be cool. There's probably a wording for that.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-26699252912269652632014-08-08T10:22:41.049-04:002014-08-08T10:22:41.049-04:00Worth trading off protection from random discard f...Worth trading off protection from random discard for Lobotomy and Psychic Intrusion?Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-26022075274870688802014-08-07T22:05:07.808-04:002014-08-07T22:05:07.808-04:00It might also be cool if you could discard this in...It might also be cool if you could discard this instead of discarding multiple other cards. Sort of like adding the Thirst For Knowledge discarding an artifact rider onto another player's spell?Devin E. Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09216945116878064817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-28445684508633147812014-08-07T17:39:56.530-04:002014-08-07T17:39:56.530-04:00Maybe it should be less specifically oriented towa...Maybe it should be less specifically oriented towards discard, and be something like "If an opponent would choose a card in your hand, that player must choose at least CARDNAME if able".metaghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18301191638894756414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-34595351071521756962014-08-07T15:39:03.070-04:002014-08-07T15:39:03.070-04:00Alternatively: "If ~ is put into your graveya...Alternatively: "If ~ is put into your graveyard from anywhere, ~ deals 5 damage to target player."Tommy Occhipintihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495646355536064735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-66213603543938904442014-08-07T15:37:59.045-04:002014-08-07T15:37:59.045-04:00I feel like this is missing some reward for discar...I feel like this is missing some reward for discarding it. Like "If an effect an opponent controls would cause you to discard a card, you may discard ~ instead. If you do, ~ deals 5 damage to that opponent." Tommy Occhipintihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495646355536064735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-53878734242322785152014-08-07T15:27:51.798-04:002014-08-07T15:27:51.798-04:00Good point. Throw a 'may' in there and it ...Good point. Throw a 'may' in there and it fixes both problems.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-65704269606819803392014-08-07T15:16:38.785-04:002014-08-07T15:16:38.785-04:00At least, not without making it optional and getti...At least, not without making it optional and getting rid of the upside/downside tension you mentionChris Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04153806274346513354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-85254094589315695202014-08-07T15:15:25.322-04:002014-08-07T15:15:25.322-04:00I have no idea how this could be templated/impleme...I have no idea how this could be templated/implemented to get around cheaters and/or people who forget what cards are in their hand.Chris Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04153806274346513354noreply@blogger.com