tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post3937473331413487396..comments2024-03-11T02:32:15.295-04:00Comments on Goblin Artisans: Weekend Art Challenge 012216—KnightsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-43376301071127965662016-01-24T15:39:02.971-05:002016-01-24T15:39:02.971-05:00I am using the third art and asserting that it dep...I am using the third art and asserting that it depicts a human, because the art doesn't actually contradict that at all.<br /><br />Hunter of Monsters 2U<br /><br />Creature - Human Knight (uncommon)<br /><br />Prowess<br /><br />When Hunter of Monsters blocks or becomes blocked by a creature with power 4 or greater, you may remove it from combat.<br /><br />2/2Czynskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748129560867347304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-83705913189721836762016-01-24T15:26:00.367-05:002016-01-24T15:26:00.367-05:00Most of the non-riding Knights are Ravnican Boros ...Most of the non-riding Knights are Ravnican Boros or Azorius (mounts are inconvenient unless they fly) or Mirran (only flying mounts are available for some reason, I don't know).Czynskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748129560867347304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-69080232881757379302016-01-24T10:03:07.417-05:002016-01-24T10:03:07.417-05:00Onyx is indeed 2/2.
That's more of a mechanic...Onyx is indeed 2/2.<br /><br />That's more of a mechanics thing than a flavor thing, but white is the color of small dudes being good at combat, so I'm ok with it.<br /><br />Onyx triggers after your opponent declares blockers and chooses not to block him.Jenesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356037137564501914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-438488446469324002016-01-24T10:01:54.911-05:002016-01-24T10:01:54.911-05:00Holy and Verdant do seem like the strongest ones f...Holy and Verdant do seem like the strongest ones for Limited (where they will be turned on 99% of the time).Jenesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356037137564501914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-7032370468482800682016-01-24T09:59:20.284-05:002016-01-24T09:59:20.284-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jenesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356037137564501914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-4712430802490821322016-01-24T08:09:06.771-05:002016-01-24T08:09:06.771-05:00Moose Rider {2}{G}{G}
Creature - Human Knight (U)
...Moose Rider {2}{G}{G}<br />Creature - Human Knight (U)<br />Team-up (You may have this creature and one or two other nonteamed creatures join a team when they all attack.)<br />When CARDNAME joins a team, each creature in that team gets +1/+1 and gains trample until end of turn.<br />3/3<br /><br /><br />Sage Knight {2}{U}<br />Creature - Human Knight (U)<br />Team-up (You may have this creature and one or two other nonteamed creatures join a team when they all attack.)<br />When Sage Knight joins a team, scry X, where X is the number or creatures in its team.<br />2/3P for Pizzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05000340281390449308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-35360573528002119712016-01-24T05:49:30.559-05:002016-01-24T05:49:30.559-05:00That was the gist of my meaning indeed.
I fear th...That was the gist of my meaning indeed.<br /><br />I fear this is quite a complicated NWO card given both abilities. It could perhaps see print, but my feeling is similar to Jay's in that the first ability does not serve enough of a purpose to be justified.A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-21607274022937326432016-01-24T05:34:07.665-05:002016-01-24T05:34:07.665-05:00I mean, I know there are no core sets, but I wasn&...I mean, I know there are no core sets, but I wasn't sure why that made a difference to having a green knight card. I guess you mean, because references to specific real world fiction has usually been in core sets? But I didn't see green knight as having to actually BE the arthurian green knight, just vaguely reminiscent of it, which seeemed to fit on any plane. (Though maybe Bant would be especially good, as a plane which really WANTS knights in G as well as W and U)Jack (cartesiandaemon)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08258267965242039995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-91143299582885756572016-01-24T05:05:29.408-05:002016-01-24T05:05:29.408-05:00I like the concept of pariah white knight and craz...I like the concept of pariah white knight and crazed enemy slaying black knight.<br /><br />I guess that the onyx knight is 2/2?<br /><br />Onyx always looses to platinum by the way, is that intended? <br /><br />Also does Onyx's unique ability triggers automatically during declare attacker phase, or is that my impression?A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-48265813239059301432016-01-24T02:34:46.581-05:002016-01-24T02:34:46.581-05:00Two competing Knight concepts. Unsure which I like...Two competing Knight concepts. Unsure which I like better.<br /><br />Platinum Knight WW<br />Creature - Knight (R)<br />First strike, vigilance<br />If a source would deal damage to you, you may have that damage be dealt to Platinum Knight instead.<br />2/2<br /><br />The chivalrous defender, willing to lay down his life for his liege.<br /><br />Onyx Knight BB<br />Creature - Knight (R)<br />Deathtouch, trample<br />Whenever Onyx Knight attacks and isn’t blocked, you may remove it from combat. If you do, destroy target untapped creature defending player controls.<br /><br />The brutal marauder, quick to take offense at those who cowardly fail to meet him in combat.Jenesishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05356037137564501914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-31468766692038249982016-01-23T23:28:26.488-05:002016-01-23T23:28:26.488-05:00FWIW, I think this could be {1}{G}{G}.FWIW, I think this could be {1}{G}{G}.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-31999433324997226072016-01-23T23:26:19.785-05:002016-01-23T23:26:19.785-05:00One could definitely use the flavor that a knight ...One could definitely use the flavor that a knight sees its enemy and goes out to defeat it. Here, I'm more looking at a knight following its principles and swearing fealty to a lord who exemplifies those same principles.<br /><br />Since I've got to choose one, I'll go with Holy Knight. Verdant Knight is my favorite, but everyone's going green.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-17145848554878234692016-01-23T06:31:35.992-05:002016-01-23T06:31:35.992-05:00They have discontinued the Core sets this year whe...They have discontinued the Core sets this year when they introduced the two-set paradigm. But that was a digression on my part.<br /><br />Similarly to what I said bellow to Bradley, I believe the first ability also is very unique but will it occur often enough to matter as a printed line? Or does it carry enough flavor by itself to justify putting it on the card? (<a rel="nofollow">Halo Hunter</a>)A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-30061369067353406032016-01-23T05:29:36.802-05:002016-01-23T05:29:36.802-05:00Oh yes, uncommon 2/2.
Jay: I agree, it would be a...Oh yes, uncommon 2/2.<br /><br />Jay: I agree, it would be a better card design with just the one ability, but I'm not sure it would be a better knight design, I just felt like the first Colour Knight needs to reference first strike, even if there might be other knights of that colour as well.<br /><br />Unfortunately here, both "the first green knight" and "the reference to gawain" both want to be called "Green Knight".<br /><br />Fading Shadows: What do you mean about not appearing in a core set?Jack (cartesiandaemon)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08258267965242039995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-19915789478790196812016-01-23T04:59:17.835-05:002016-01-23T04:59:17.835-05:00I see that the puzzle that the green and blue knig...I see that the puzzle that the green and blue knights are has attracted most of you guys like moths to a very delicious looking cloth (though I would say fire, didn't you? It does not fit the analogy I wanted to make). I cannot blame you. We prefer uncharted territory, but bear in mind that it would be interesting to think about how they would make the others nowadays.<br /><br />I have been really enjoying this week's challenge so far.<br /><br />If you want me to add a different graphic to your cards, please tell me so, and remember that you are encouraged to suggest flavor text to other people's cards.<br /><br />Keep up the good work!A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-87516745184498145002016-01-23T04:53:42.017-05:002016-01-23T04:53:42.017-05:00I agree with Jay. I like however how it fits the b...I agree with Jay. I like however how it fits the blue knight. Prowess was a slam-dunk mechanic from R&D!A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-55306853951860172152016-01-23T04:51:47.675-05:002016-01-23T04:51:47.675-05:00First things first: I love the analysis in the blo...First things first: I love the analysis in the blogpost!<br /><br />That being said, indeed the card feels slightly lackluster to me. {2}{G}{G} for a 2/2 in green?<br /><br />I do understand the strength of deathtoutch and hexproof and they do fit the green knight, but still, this is not an uncommon I will get excited to draft.<br /><br />I believe the second line also is very unique making it generally unblockable by the few black and/or green creatures that have deathtoutch and the few greeen and/or blue hexproof creatures of the set but will it occur often enough to matter as a printed line? Or does it carry enough flavor by itself to justify putting it on the card? (<a rel="nofollow">Halo Hunter</a>)<br /><br />I think this needs a bit of itereation still.A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-43468984407893968552016-01-23T04:42:41.834-05:002016-01-23T04:42:41.834-05:00Indeed this is quite unique (although I think I ha...Indeed this is quite unique (although I think I have seen something kind of similar in goblin artisans at some point). Is this iconic?<br /><br />Some Vorthos will like the nudge to Gawain, others will dislike it since it will not appear in a core set (R.I.P. core sets), but wizards always likes to give each kind of kid a cookie, so this is very probably something they would still do.<br /><br />Also important: stats! is this a 2/2?<br /><br />What rarity is it? The rules are tough on this one, so I imagine uncommon/rare?A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-74348823979724999432016-01-23T04:35:59.485-05:002016-01-23T04:35:59.485-05:00Indeed this is a very cool uncommon cycle. The col...Indeed this is a very cool uncommon cycle. The color spells also have no memory issues (99% of the time) since you can usually see what each player has cast. It is an interesting choice to limit yourself in colors and not go the other way:<br /><br />If an opponent has cast a X or Y spell this game, CARDNAME has KEYWORLD.A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-76537778655200868622016-01-23T04:32:13.134-05:002016-01-23T04:32:13.134-05:00This is the kind of discussion I wanted to see fro...This is the kind of discussion I wanted to see from this challenge! <br />Good research work guys!<br />Excellent post Bradley! Very well done.A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-30548175901568052152016-01-23T04:29:56.574-05:002016-01-23T04:29:56.574-05:00Thank you for the links guys. My inner Vorthos is ...Thank you for the links guys. My inner Vorthos is still not satisfied by all of those...<br /><br />The style of mtg is quite precise and these cards did not feel as they could be "today" mtg.<br /><br />The last ones of both of you are the most interesting, but (for Czynski's) I was imagining this round to be about "creature - knight human" and (for Jay's) I think they try to avoid <a rel="nofollow">Kiora, the Crashing Wave</a> posture situations. I think we can let the last one be for now, unless we find one that is spot on (I will keep searching).A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-42906711285464727942016-01-22T22:58:09.124-05:002016-01-22T22:58:09.124-05:00I melvin-y dig how your cycle relates to each othe...I melvin-y dig how your cycle relates to each other via their keywords. I'm not sure they stand on their own as well: What does it mean that Jaded Vanguard is unblockable by Giant Scorpion and Geist of Saint Traft?Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-84846049263640080752016-01-22T22:45:27.366-05:002016-01-22T22:45:27.366-05:00p/t?
Why not end step?p/t?<br />Why not end step?Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-2752436377767301362016-01-22T17:17:39.166-05:002016-01-22T17:17:39.166-05:00Knight of Knowledge {2}{U}
Prowess
At the start of...Knight of Knowledge {2}{U}<br />Prowess<br />At the start of each main phase, if ~ has 4 or more power, draw a card.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-29547382302284533642016-01-22T16:42:20.056-05:002016-01-22T16:42:20.056-05:00What about double strike?
The second ability is v...What about double strike?<br /><br />The second ability is very unique. Does it need the first to shine?Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.com