tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post6163121421142476028..comments2024-03-11T02:32:15.295-04:00Comments on Goblin Artisans: Set Design Pitch: EkkremesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-83725441691428542482012-10-25T16:51:03.508-04:002012-10-25T16:51:03.508-04:00Kudos to YOU for noticing! XD I must say I did not...Kudos to YOU for noticing! XD I must say I did not expect anyone to know.Circeushttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/member.php?u=103318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-19539649396185471022012-10-25T11:59:34.828-04:002012-10-25T11:59:34.828-04:00In a world that rediscovers magic, some will embra...In a world that rediscovers magic, some will embrace it, while some will be highly suspicious of it:<br />Mage Hunter 2R<br />Creature - Human Warrior<br />When ~ enters the battlefield, it deals 2 damage to target player or Wizard.<br />2/1<br /><br />The anti-magic group could also rely more on Operate, while the Wizard group could have spell-like activated abilities.James Bartolottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14429344295256063879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-89131351431908462142012-10-25T09:46:33.597-04:002012-10-25T09:46:33.597-04:00Cudos on the name, from the greek word for pendulu...Cudos on the name, from the greek word for pendulum.<br />I believe that the setting is not really fleshed out thematically, and could use a bit more though in what is happening exactly. The 7 commons have, however, already spend half the complexity points I estimate the set should have...A.Charantonishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14764287128554364197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-49428999624239757272012-10-25T09:18:09.261-04:002012-10-25T09:18:09.261-04:00Warning: rambly post.
I really wish I could figur...Warning: rambly post.<br /><br />I really wish I could figure out a good way to focus on the technology/magic divide that would inevitably arise in this context. I said "without mana", but it was an oversimplification. Mana was just so rare as to make magic mythical.<br /><br />My approach via colorless mana is not new, the Archester project at MTGS has the same concept with their Steam-powered mechanic (but I believed their designs has far too much bleeding).<br /><br />Now that I realize that Rebate/Surge requires both options to be overcosted (my Entropic Siphon actually obsolete Taste of Blood, which I stupidly overlooked), I think Latch (I call it the "rider" mechanic) is a better option to explore.<br /><br />While I'm on latch, I want to point out that on Arcane Deductions it means that protecting higher-costed spells is cheaper (it can be read as "U: Target spell with CMC6+ can't be countered."). Latch has to require spells that cost higher than the latched spells because you don't want to latch a spell to another of the same cost (i.e. the same reason as cascade).Circeushttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/member.php?u=103318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-60613468532263742472012-10-25T04:31:05.435-04:002012-10-25T04:31:05.435-04:00Eek, read up on NWO. This set has a lot of cost-ma...Eek, read up on NWO. This set has a lot of cost-manipulating, math-heavy mechanics that don't have a lot of flavor or resonance. I also don't know why you'd want to represent a world without magic in a game called "Magic." This whole world concept feels like a nonstarter to me, and your mechanics aren't showing me what it's about. Operate is very very cool. It's the "piloting a ship" mechanic I've always dreamed of, though you're employing it for different purposes here. I'd chase after that direction, though.<br /><br />Pendulum Engine is, of course, your strongest design.<br /><br />What I'd like to see from this set: ditch "a world without magic" and all but one of the cost-manipulating things. Find out where your center of resonance is and pursue it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647677781801914930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-33455628207501726612012-10-25T01:07:14.022-04:002012-10-25T01:07:14.022-04:00So, Circeus -- do you have any ideas you liked bes...So, Circeus -- do you have any ideas you liked best? Anything you wanted to refine, to focus upon? I think the best ideas you have here are Operate (a great implementation of steampunk, which is what no magic would imply) and Latch (an interesting way to emphasize spellcasting)Inanimatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-47707314977149047562012-10-25T00:48:31.786-04:002012-10-25T00:48:31.786-04:00I definitely remember the Sorin thread! He was one...I definitely remember the Sorin thread! He was one of the few designs I was definitely intending to reuse. You're right the set was going into far too much directions at the time (even worse than transpiring here, with a non-gold multicolor concept that alone could have been a basis), and that was exactly why I was going to scrap everything and restart from fresh bases.Circeushttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/member.php?u=103318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-28479115392590171162012-10-25T00:34:21.104-04:002012-10-25T00:34:21.104-04:00Also: I had seen this at Salvation. I was the dude...Also: I had seen this at Salvation. I was the dude who helped out your Sorin design, remember?Inanimatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-83079192786608861802012-10-25T00:20:39.893-04:002012-10-25T00:20:39.893-04:00Wowee zowee, did you pack a lot of stuff into your...Wowee zowee, did you pack a lot of stuff into your set... it looks like you went into your keyword-ideas-diary, and threw it all together. I agree with the comments -- some of these have potential, but we need to focus on one.<br /><br />The worst part of this set is easily that it's far too mechanical -- you had neat ideas of how to mess with casting costs and mana-matters, but you haven't crafted a fine flavor and story to explain it, and so they each lack a lot of depth.<br /><br />This has some good mechanics in it, but not much else. Going back to the drawing board would be a good idea.Inanimatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-20436979723279922402012-10-25T00:20:19.305-04:002012-10-25T00:20:19.305-04:00I just wanted to comment that I was the one that s...I just wanted to comment that I was the one that submitted this pitch (Havelock, having seen the email address, wouldn't be surprised). I had been working on it over at MTGSalvation, but had decided to start over from scratch. I had begun work on the skeleton when this came up, so I decided to submit it if only to see how far it would go.Circeushttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/member.php?u=103318noreply@blogger.com