tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post7535781078124920197..comments2024-03-11T02:32:15.295-04:00Comments on Goblin Artisans: Weekend Art Challenge 031414—JordyLakiereUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger150125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-66905457906768962052014-03-17T21:55:27.256-04:002014-03-17T21:55:27.256-04:00With this many words, we want to save as many as p...With this many words, we want to save as many as possible.Jay Treathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428861685923241850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-77896779706706515442014-03-17T18:17:16.711-04:002014-03-17T18:17:16.711-04:00Clearly, he wants to be Legendary for Commander pu...Clearly, he wants to be Legendary for Commander purposes.Tigthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11018253211543720641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-59703289863677208452014-03-17T18:03:19.452-04:002014-03-17T18:03:19.452-04:00Ah, I'd go for not naming the event. That save...Ah, I'd go for not naming the event. That saves us questions about whether things trigger when more counters are added after the last came off, and lets us also do static effects as long as a creature has no counters/has power N or greater.Juleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13784920130399590671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-53628905869839005662014-03-17T17:49:01.038-04:002014-03-17T17:49:01.038-04:00I would hope this would be in an environment with ...I would hope this would be in an environment with other (better) removal, or else if this is too strong (a must-play rather than a maybe-play) you run the risk of forcing players (esp. LSPs) to do something they don't want to do in order to succeed (a thing long-lectured on and worth remembering.)<br /><br />The other concern to me is color. Between Sorin's Thirst, Bump in the Night, and Sign in Blood, are we sure this is not black?Pasteurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02058331124653341978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-32455626892288165812014-03-17T16:48:02.704-04:002014-03-17T16:48:02.704-04:00Double oops! The second one is not meant to be rep...Double oops! The second one is not meant to be repeatable. This is what I get for copy-pasting.<br /><br />Imprisoned Arsonist 2R<br />Creature - Goblin<br />Shackles 2 (This enters the battlefield with three -1/-1 counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a -1/-1 counter from this. When the last is removed it becomes unchained.)<br />When ~ becomes unchained, it deals 2 damage to target creature or player.<br />2/3<br /><br />The difference is whether we name the event of losing your last counter or not. If we name it, then the abilities are less wordy and once you get the mechanic you get it. If we don't, the mechanic is less wordy and we can make the simplest possible designs.Devin E. Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09216945116878064817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-61517761703653023812014-03-17T16:31:02.248-04:002014-03-17T16:31:02.248-04:00My gut says the first one. There are very few effe...My gut says the first one. There are very few effects you want happening repeatedly at common, but plenty that you want to wait more than a turn for. Of course if this were a real set I'd want to playtest both since neither seems implausible and intuitions can be wrong.Juleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13784920130399590671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-33119542507074197662014-03-17T15:27:23.556-04:002014-03-17T15:27:23.556-04:00Oh man, no love for Kookus? I'm not clamoring ...Oh man, no love for Kookus? I'm not clamoring for its return, but a functional reprint (at uncommon) could be plausible. Its no Niall Silvain! lol<br /><br />My gut was to name Grim Lavamancer and change the Maulhorn into an uncontrollable lava elemental, but that doesn't fit the art. Basically Kookus isn't integral to the change, its just the first compelling example of red naming other cards that popped into my head.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-66468736704350717412014-03-17T14:58:47.998-04:002014-03-17T14:58:47.998-04:00Oops. Both cost 2R, obviously.Oops. Both cost 2R, obviously.Devin E. Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09216945116878064817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-72950852223277039392014-03-17T14:58:27.112-04:002014-03-17T14:58:27.112-04:00Do people prefer:
Imprisoned Arsonist 2R
Creature...Do people prefer:<br /><br />Imprisoned Arsonist 2R<br />Creature - Goblin<br />Shackles 2 (This enters the battlefield with three -1/-1 counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a -1/-1 counter from this.)<br />When the last -1/-1 counter is removed from ~, it deals 2 damage to target creature or player.<br />2/3<br /><br />Or:<br /><br />Imprisoned Arsonist 3B<br />Creature - Goblin<br />Shackles 2 (This enters the battlefield with three -1/-1 counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a -1/-1 counter from this, it becomes unchained.)<br />When ~ becomes unchained, it deals 2 damage to target creature or player.<br />2/3Devin E. Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09216945116878064817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-75708260088697568992014-03-17T13:51:48.321-04:002014-03-17T13:51:48.321-04:00Having counters that aren't +1/+1 or -1/-1 on ...Having counters that aren't +1/+1 or -1/-1 on creatures has a huge opportunity cost. I think all this ability wants is "When ~ loses summoning sickness, EFFECT." Of course it should be reworded to whatever actually works within the rules. I was thinking "The first time ~ attacks" but that might have memory issues.Axxlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16978784390180005187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-9674093925445430952014-03-17T12:40:07.587-04:002014-03-17T12:40:07.587-04:00Scab-Clan Mauler: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Page...Scab-Clan Mauler: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=96904Juleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13784920130399590671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-48722239807228921502014-03-17T12:17:31.437-04:002014-03-17T12:17:31.437-04:00I like Chain counters in this instance. I see the ...I like Chain counters in this instance. I see the -1/-1 angle, but we haven't seen anything like this in a while. (Charge counters in Scars and what? Time counters in Spiral block?) VERY interesting design space, but this individual design hampers its overall allure due to the challenge constraints. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-2687773072922494422014-03-17T12:16:03.684-04:002014-03-17T12:16:03.684-04:00I would also prefer the mechanic used -1/-1 counte...I would also prefer the mechanic used -1/-1 counters, in which case it would fit nice in a prison set, like Scott van Essen's GDS2 world.<br /><br />Chained Ogre 3B<br />Creature - Ogre<br />Shackles 3 (This enters the battlefield with three -1/-1 counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a -1/-1 counter from this.)<br />~ can't attack as long as it has a -1/-1 counter on it.<br />4/4<br /><br />The "can't attack" text is optional and flavor-driven. Uncommons and Rares could have "when you remove the last -1/-1 counter from this, effect"James Bartolottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14429344295256063879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-42654694853561683172014-03-17T12:11:53.550-04:002014-03-17T12:11:53.550-04:00How many Echo cards would read this miserably with...How many Echo cards would read this miserably with the same treatment? Sweet concept.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-5092354574223515482014-03-17T12:10:12.078-04:002014-03-17T12:10:12.078-04:00This is an elegant solution to the challenge. Poin...This is an elegant solution to the challenge. Points!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-16475647265495931032014-03-17T12:09:20.869-04:002014-03-17T12:09:20.869-04:00That's a beast common for black limited! Not a...That's a beast common for black limited! Not a deal breaker, its just that it appears playable. Black's creatures have become increasingly less appealing as of late. Also, I wonder if the power level of this is too high for common. At uncommon, I'm all in. Love it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-48344578422245316422014-03-17T12:06:21.531-04:002014-03-17T12:06:21.531-04:00I'm with Ipaulsen. Nix the "target creatu...I'm with Ipaulsen. Nix the "target creature" part and I'm totally sold. It reads like an English sentence. Something I'd love to see more of in this game. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-22405836197984485252014-03-17T12:03:45.867-04:002014-03-17T12:03:45.867-04:00D'oh, you beat me to Fire Elemental! I'd h...D'oh, you beat me to Fire Elemental! I'd have gone "Can't block" or "attacks each turn if able", but only because they seem to be testing out the buddy system in white now.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-67743253196225747162014-03-17T12:01:24.895-04:002014-03-17T12:01:24.895-04:00I'm confused as to what the reference is.I'm confused as to what the reference is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-24386852988337087022014-03-17T12:00:17.741-04:002014-03-17T12:00:17.741-04:00You beat me to Aura>Sorceries. Great choice on ...You beat me to Aura>Sorceries. Great choice on Madcap. No further changes please. Its perfect :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-62491554303117957002014-03-17T12:00:04.889-04:002014-03-17T12:00:04.889-04:00Buffing Trolls was meant to swing some love to a m...Buffing Trolls was meant to swing some love to a minor tribe, but its ability and color aren't realistically going to help a Troll deck. Because of that, I'll switch it to Nich's version, which is more likely to make an impact in Limited.<br /><br />Cave Troll 3R<br />Creature - Troll Warrior (C)<br />Each Goblin you control can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.<br />2/2James Bartolottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14429344295256063879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-7347770649238584622014-03-17T11:57:53.466-04:002014-03-17T11:57:53.466-04:00I'll go with "designer's choice"...I'll go with "designer's choice" on the type flip, as long as the environment isn't being factored in.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-24667795580782389902014-03-17T11:55:50.068-04:002014-03-17T11:55:50.068-04:00I like this a lot. That said, with the (somewhat) ...I like this a lot. That said, with the (somewhat) recent reprinting of Lightning Bolt, we're miles away from this level of downgrade being printed any time soon. In the current environment 1C=3 damage plus a rider. Whenever 1CC=3 damage becomes the norm Ogremaul would be accepted without much complaint.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-47247129358832130772014-03-17T11:48:20.850-04:002014-03-17T11:48:20.850-04:003C to 2CD is not as obvious as 3C to 2CC. props on...3C to 2CD is not as obvious as 3C to 2CC. props on that! I'd argue that this is equally printable as Gruul, Selesnya, or Boros.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773403569389449877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5479847193762153273.post-20963992701869260872014-03-17T10:59:02.097-04:002014-03-17T10:59:02.097-04:00I agree with Jules. Pump spells are bad enough alr...I agree with Jules. Pump spells are bad enough already.lpaulsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07772860908442278112noreply@blogger.com