Weekend Art ChallengeGreetings, artisans! Click through to see this weekend's art and the design requirements for your single card submission, due Monday morning. Every submission warrants feedback, and everyone is encouraged to give feedback. You may use that feedback to revise your submission any number of times, though only the version rendered will be included in the review, if someone volunteers to render the cards.
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| Art for Dragon Age by Frank Hong |
Fear the Storm
ReplyDelete2BBBB
Search your library for a card, reveal it, and put it on top of your library. Target player may have you put the card on the bottom of your library, if they do, draw 3 cards.
Contrast: In any format without teams, you just reveal a big monster and get to draw 3 cards. In emperor or THG you have more control over what you get. It is tribute for instants and sorceries.
This is a much worse Distant Memories.
DeleteAlso, for cost, compare to the unspectacular Diabolic Tutor, which your card is strictly worse than in multiple ways.
Maybe push this to 1BB and add "and lose 3 life" to the card draw portion?
DeleteI can't help but want to see this at B, just to see. Just to see.
Can we nuke the massive color requirement and just put the tutored card into your hand if the other player doesn't want to let you draw? That makes it a slightly more expensive Library of Lat-Nam with a significantly better effect.
DeleteThe cost is very high for what you get. The key to punisher mechanics seems to be a discount on each half. (Granted you have teammates in mind so that changes the math)
DeleteI imagine this wouldn't see play outside of 2HG or Emperor as it is costed.
I'm going to stray from the art for a similar design for Somnia. New Art: A lightning bolt illuminates the warped shadowy figure of a nightmarish nightmare.
DeleteForeshadowing Bolt BR
Sorcery (R)
Search your library for a card, reveal that card to all players, and put that card into your library second from the top. Foreshadowing bolt deals 3 damage to target creature or player and an additional 3 damage to an additional target creature or player for each player you revealed that card to.
"Even the outline of a nightmare is enough to scare somebody half to death."
Theo - I would pay RR for the lightning bolt + additional players effect. I don't think it needs to be attached to the search, since you reveal cards to the whole table by default anyway. The card is also just generally undercosted. You could go a lot bigger (riffing):
DeleteForeshadowing Doom 5B
Sorcery (R)
Search your library for a card with converted mana cost 6 or greater, reveal it, and put it into your hand.
Each opponent loses 6 life.
Or if you wanted to keep the "revealing" to different players part interesting you could change it to guessing and any player who guessed wrong would take damage.
Emergence of the Brood 1RR
ReplyDeleteSorcery (R)
Starting with you, each player may put a 4/4 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield. Then, each player that didn't draws X cards, where X is the number of Dragon creatures on the battlefield.
I think that, as the person spending a card on this, you should at least get to choose last.
DeleteYeah, that's probably a good call.
DeletePredator's Council 1RR
DeleteSorcery (R)
Each opponent puts a 4/4 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield. Then, choose one:
- Put a 4/4 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
- You draw X cards, where X is the number of Dragon creatures on the battlefield.
Perhaps your dragon should be bigger?
DeletePredator's Council V2 3RR
Sorcery (R)
Each opponent puts a 4/4 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield. Then, choose one:
- Put an 8/8 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
- You draw X cards, where X is the number of Dragon creatures on the battlefield.
And those inspired this:
DeleteBroodmother's Cry 3RR
Sorcery (R)
Each player chooses one:
- Search your library for a Dragon card and put it onto the battlefield.
- Put a 4/4 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
I like the 4/4 vs 8/8 token version. The card draw option seems useless in a duel, marginal in 2HG, but serious in larger games.
DeleteAnother direction (and I think my actual submission):
DeleteBloodpact Champion 1UR
Creature - Human Archer (R)
Hexproof
Whenever you would draw a card, instead you may have target opponent choose two nonland cards from your library. If you do, put those cards into your hand, then shuffle your library.
2/3
For when you really need that wrath next turn to stop one guy wrecking the whole table.
Extermination Contract
ReplyDelete1B
Enchantment - Aura - Uncommon
Enchant creature you don't control
Whenever enchanted creature dies, its controller's opponents gain 2 life and draw two cards.
Love it. Is draw two cards and gain two life ok on a monoblack card though? It's a tough sell as mono anything.
DeleteChance Rendezvous 2RG
ReplyDeleteInstant (R)
Choose two target creatures controlled by different players. If those players are teammates, those creatures get +2/+2 until end of turn. Otherwise, those creatures fight each other.
Flavor text:
"Never know who you'll run into when you can hardly see in front of your face!" -- Jaya Ballard, task mage
I think this would be more interesting if it let you choose whether to make them fight or get larger, particularly for formats like Star where you're not actually on a team with players you want to help anyway. It is also a mono-green card that red doesn't add anything to.
DeleteAgreed on cutting red. Making the boost/fight completely optional adds enough flexibility the cost would have to be exorbitantly high.
DeleteI support the initial concept
Is monogreen allowed to have two opposing creatures kill each other?
DeleteHappens all the time in nature right?
DeleteYoung Hero 1W
ReplyDeleteCreature - Human Archer (Mythic Rare)
Young Hero untaps during each player’s untap step.
T: Destroy target creature with power greater than Young Hero’s power, then put a +1/+1 counter on Young Hero. Any player may activate this ability as long as it is that player’s turn.
1/1
In pure multiplayer, this is a highly political anti-fatty card that gives you a big creature when it's no longer useful to the table. In Emperor, it's a lopsided card that lets your side activate it twice to every one from your opponents, and leaves you with a large creature rapidly. Star magic is similar. 2HG this is bland and basically the same as in 1v1.
I like that this has no evasion or innate defence against removal. Mechanically could be legendary, though I'll admit the art facing the back might work against that.
DeleteWizards shies away from tap abilities on "monger" style abilities. I'd recommend haste and a traveling controller (a la Korona, False God) if you feel tapping is integral to the design. That would have the unwanted side effect of needing R somewhere on the card.
DeleteThis could just be an upkeep trigger and lose half the text
DeleteSweet art! Weird template incoming!
ReplyDeleteDraconic Aid RW
Instant (R)
Choose a creature attacking one of your opponents. Put a 5/5 red dragon token with flying into play under that player's control blocking that creature.
"You owe me one."
I'm a big fan of this type of card, and this card specifically. Seeing this printed in a set would make me happy.
DeleteThe one thing I would consider is changing "one of your opponents" to "another player". It becomes a stronger card in (2HG? Emperor?), but that might be an upside.
I don't want to give your teammate a 2 mana 5/5 flier, though I think a version that wast costed appropriately could say "attacking you or your teammate" and be awesome.
DeleteSweet card . Could be simplified to "another target player puts a 5/5 red dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield."
DeleteOr "target opponent puts a blah"
The blocking text and creature targeting are both really cool, but neither needs to be there.
"It blocks this turn if able." would suffice and doesn't interfere with unblockable or protection from red.
I agree "Target opponent puts a 5/5 dragon token with flying onto the battlefield." is much much simpler without losing much of value, and has the additional upside that it is mono-Red.
DeleteUpdated submission:
Draconic Aid RR
Instant - (R)
Target opponent puts a 5/5 re dragon token with flying onto the battlefield.
"You owe me one!"
I love this one. It looks so Spikey at first glance then you read it more carefully and even ignoring all the multiplayer applications I'm sure Johnny will love trying to figure out how to break it.
DeleteDuelist's Mark (common)
ReplyDelete2R
Sorcery
Target creature gets +3/+0 until end of turn. It fights target creature controlled by a different player.
Possibly uncommon. Multiplayer products are usually preconstructed (Planechase, Commander, etc.) and rarity there is a bit muddled.
This is basically the same as "Destroy two target creatures with different controllers," which would also be a neat effect.
DeleteMultiplayer stuff aside, I think the +3/+0 could be roughly equivalent to the permanent +1/+1 counter from hunt the weak. 3R seems fair in a duel. Adding in the chance to make two opponents lose creatures of your choice, 3R seems low, but I'd start there and playtest.
DeleteNo, it's not the same as "destroy two target creatures with different controllers," because it allows you to potentially choose who wins the fight. You can also use it to pump an attacker. It's pretty versatile.
DeleteThere is certainly some added flexibility, but I think it isn't much. If you're using it to pump an attacker, you have to use it on one of your creatures which isn't optimal.
DeleteAlso, to clarify, my comment wasn't in any way a complaint, merely an observation that I think that is how it will play out most of the time. In a duel, it is a Bone Splinters and in a multiplayer game it is a (slightly restricted) Ashes to Ashes. Of course, it is Red, not Black, so it comes with traditional Red weaknesses like softness to creatures with really high toughness.
Decisive Combat 2R
ReplyDeleteSorcery (r)
CARDNAME deals 5 damage to target player.
At the beginning of the end step, if that player has lost the game, you win the game.
I'll render the cards this week.
"In response, I concede."
DeleteIf there's a chance your opponent will concede, that means you can also use this as a bluff spell, right? That sounds pretty cool.
DeleteThat's awesome.
DeleteAlso strictly WAY better than Lava Axe. I'd say 4R at least.
It balances your vindiction against the person who eliminates you with your desire for everyone to finish the game at the same time you lose so you can immediately play again, or at least go to food with people.
DeleteBalancing real-life boredom against in game revenge is not a decision space I want to push designs into.
Please add "or you lose the game".
Delete"Look, it's getting late. Something needs to happen. I gotta work in the morning."
My first pass:
ReplyDeleteHunt to Extinction (Rare)
4BB
Sorcery
NAME costs 1 less to cast for each target beyond the first.
Any number of target players choose a creature type. Destroy all creatures of a type chosen this way.
This is quite a beating in Two-Headed Giant... and possibly elsewhere as well. Dedicated control decks can cast it for 5 mana even in two-player. I think I like it, though. The creature-type dimension gives it great flavor and interesting gameplay.
DeleteNot that it's ever the 'correct' thing to do, but if I played this against a Changeling deck, I would SO get a kick of targeting just the opponent.
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ReplyDeleteDraconic Nemesis 3RR
DeleteCreature- Dragon (Rare)
0/0
Flying, haste
As CARDNAME enters the battlefield, name a player. CARDNAME enters the battlefield with +1/+1 counters on it equal to that player's starting life total divided by 5.
CARDNAME attacks the named player every turn if able.
I love the flavor but we really don't see much beyond halving anymore. Pox was 1/3, and that was years ago.
DeleteHow married are you to 1/5?
All starting life totals (that I know of) are multiples of 10, so I think 1/5 is justifiable in this situation. 1/2 would be way too much. I'm open to other possibilities, though.
DeleteI totally agree with you (except in vanguard games).
DeletePoint is: WE get it. We aren't the only demo that needs catered to.
Alpha Hunt 3GG
ReplyDeleteSorcery (R)
Target creature gains indestructible until end of turn. For each opponent, it fights the creature with the greatest power that player controls.
Bleh that wording doesn't seems right. Help?
Target creature [you control?] gains indestructible until end of turn.
DeleteFor each opponent, that creature fights the creature with the greatest power [among creatures] that player controls.
The wording's fine, except that the rules don't work well with fighting multiple creatures at once (what order do you fight them in?). Since you're granting indestructible anyway, why not just deal damage equal to the target creature's power to each of the others?
DeleteAlso, did you want to say "target creature you control"?
Or add "in turn order". I'm not 100% sure it would happen simultaneously. Does the "for each player" not resolve in turn order already?
DeleteDragonslayer Sniper 1WG
ReplyDeleteCreature - Human Archer (Rare)
First strike, reach, deathtouch
After years of training, she realized there’s one way to kill a dragon: shot first, and hit the bull’s eye with the one shot.
2/3
I went for a design I did some time ago, that grows in power the more opponents you can attack (Rattlesnake effect).
This design can be done in many colors. It has to be necessarily green (for reach), but can have white or red for first strike, and can add black for deathtouch. So we have: BRG, RG, WG, WBG. I feel for such a defensive card white makes more sense than red, and that black can be omitted. I'd like to know your thoughts about it.
Regarding the rarity, it originally was an uncommon 1/3 at the same price, but I bumped it to rare, thinking it would be miserable to play against in multiples in limited.
Props for this elegant solution!
DeleteIt feels like its a half a point away from owning this challenge. Vigilance would go a long way towards making this a multiplayer all star.
Scary attacker and a rattlesnake.
How does this grow in power the more opponents you have? It only has combat-relevant abilities and can't protect itself. Does the option to play politics really outweigh having more life totals to chew through/having more potential sources of kill spells aimed at it?
DeleteMaybe "grows in power" isn't exactly correct as sentence. It has an important function in multiplayer: it deviates attacks from you and to other players (the so called rattlesnake effect, by Antony Alongi if I recall correctly). The same reason why Spectral Prison/Propaganda are way better in mp than duels, or that Edric Spymaster of Trest, while not a very strong card in duels, becomes a powerhouse in multiplayer, ecc. These type of cards do not scale in power with more opponents (Ã la Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Syphon Life, Primordial cycle, etc.) but they nonetheless are more powerful than in duel. In a duel, I'll kill your Dragonslayer Sniper and then attack you, but if I can attack other opponents without having to battle a Deathtouch first striker, why would I attack you anyway, or bother wasting a pin point removal against a 2/3? Do note that you say "having more life totals to chew", but (big) part of this card power is exactly to let/make your opponents do that very work for you: chew each other's life total while you remain in a safer position.
Delete(p.s.: I wanted to point out I'm not trying to be bumptious, I'm only trying to respond in the clearest way to your criticisms, which I very much appreciate and like discussing about [all this rambling only to say, I don't know the tone my words will be perceived with])
This is quite the Voracious Cobra. This might be fine in multiplayer, but I don't want this printed in a set that players draft, as this card is awful to play against if you don't have an answer for it (and many draft decks wouldn't.)
DeleteNitpick: Edric is actually very strong in 1v1 and not all that great in multiplayer. It's banned in duel commander and has even placed highly in a few Legacy tournaments. You have to ask "how is this card benefiting me more than it benefits my opponents?" Edric fails that test pretty miserably because letting your opponents draw cards in exchange for lowering opponents' life totals isn't a very good tradeoff (cards > life) whereas in 1v1, you have zero opponents who can take advantage of the card draw effect better than you can.
DeleteIn FFA, sure, a first strike deathtouch dude is going to convince opponents to go after someone else, but that's assuming 1) you're not the obvious threat that people want to be pointing all their disruption at anyway, and 2) you can do something useful with the time you're buying from not being attacked; if the other players are Sim City-ing it up toward some combo engine or board lockdown, your investment in a combat stats dude is going to look pretty silly by comparison.
I'd guess this is probably most optimal at an FFA table with 3-4 people, worse with 5+ but still better than in duels, and doesn't benefit you in formats with modified attacking rules, like Star, Emperor, 2HG, and Attack Left/Right.
Dragon Hunt WB
ReplyDeleteSorcery
Destroy target creature with power 4 or greater. If it was a dragon, draw cards equal to its power.
Since big creatures are so much more common in multiplayer games.
Ghitu-Sling Frenzy!
ReplyDeleteR
Uncommon
Sorcery
Choose an order for each player. CARDNAME deals one damage to the first player, two damage to the second, and so on.
Draw a card.
Or "Dragon Taco Breath"
DeleteOfficial change: mana cost increased to 2R
DeleteThis is a comment
ReplyDeleteThis is a reply?
DeleteWinter's Duel 3WR
ReplyDeleteEnchantment - Curse
Enchant Opponent
Whenever a source you control would deal damage to enchanted player, it instead deals double that much damage.
Whenever a source that player controls would damage to you, it instead deals double that much damage.
Whenever another source would deal damage to either player, it instead deals half that much damage, rounded down.
Unfortunately the card is really wordy for what is a simple concept.
You could simply the last line with "all other sources" tech
DeleteEmbittered Duel [R/G][R/G]
ReplyDeleteSorcery
Target creature you control fights target creature controlled by another target player not sitting next to you. Your creature gets +1/+1 for each player between you and the controller of the creature it is fighting. (Only count the direction of play that has the fewest players between you and the other player.)
The idea is that in a game like Emperor or Star, this is a really powerful fight variant, as you will always be fighting someone a few players away, but in games like 2-Headed Giant or Chaos, it limits who you can fight.
Can't be played in a duel. :( very cool design space, but it's so out of the box it's probably only viable in silver bordered land
Deletenot necessarily, there was that powerstone thing in planes chase that interacted with the planar dice, you would just have to add an extra effect to this spell that would not make it a blank card in a 1v1 duel.
DeleteReminds me of the game "Bang!" where distance between players matters a lot.
DeleteAn easy way to make this 2-player-relevant: Just say "fights another target creature." Then it's a 2-mana Prey Upon when you use it against your neighbor / duel opponent, and +X/+X still provides plenty of incentive to go after players sitting further away.
Bang! is a cool game. :)
DeleteOriginally, it could fight any creature as Ipaulsen suggested, but I didn't care for the "all-upside" version. I liked that the more specific one was good in some multiplayer games but not good in other multiplayer games.
It also isn't silver-bordered, since cards like Mystic Barrier, Order of Succession, and Grenzo's Rebuttal directly reference seating arrangements.
But they all work in duels. Admittedly Mystic Barrier doesn't do much, but at least you can cast it.
DeleteArcher's Ambush X1G
ReplyDeleteInstant (Uncommon)
Put X 1/1 green archer creature token with reach and deathtouch onto the battlefield under your control, where X is equal to the number of your opponents.
Curse of the Quarry R
ReplyDeleteEnchantment - Aura (R)
Enchant Player
Other players attack enchanted player with at least one creature if able during each combat.
This is very clever, though I think it should cost at least 2R.
DeleteQal Sisma
ReplyDeletePlane- Takir
Each player names a card.
Whenever a player destroys a creature with a chosen name, that player may reveal that name and draw a card.
@: Destroy all non-named creatures.
Qal Sisma
DeletePlane- Takir
Each player names a card.
Whenever a player destroys a creature with a chosen name, that player may draw a card.
@: Destroy all non-named creatures.
I like this.
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